Thursday, January 18, 2007

Dark days

I went for a movie exhibition at the Max Mueller Bhavan, and came out feeling devastated. The movies (see the listing at the link for the 18th) were just too direct and in-your-face about some of the terrible things going on that we aren't usually exposed to. One of the movie showed farmers spraying their cotton with more and more pesticides in an attempt to save their crop. The farmer would come back from a spraying session nauseated and with his tongue numb from the effect of the pesticide. There is not enough water to wash away the pesticide on his body properly so you imagine it slowly seeping through. The doctor at the local hospital talks about farmers being brought in sick either from the effects of the pesticide use or by directly ingesting it in despair to commit suicide. Other scenes showed raw industrial effluents being poured out directly into the water where it poisons the water we drink and the soil. Contamination building up and spreading, building up and spreading, building up and spreading... until ?
One of the film-makers used the language of insanity to describe what we are doing. One can disagree with such an extreme judgement but after watching that film you still are affected by the blackness of the picture painted.

The difficulty of watching such films is that you confront suffering that you normally are not exposed to. You are forced to try to comprehend the extent of the total bad stuff going on in the world, without any filters and without a balancing picture of the good stuff. For me, the question it raises is: how serious is my commitment to 'doing good' or social work in the face of probably complete futility of what you do in the big picture. Like, I would think, everybody else, I do what I do in the hope that there will be a significant/measurable impact. Or other motivations like its fascinating and stimulating and you feel like its a problem worth trying to solve. If only for a moment, all the rationalization and hope/belief are torn away and a picture of utter bleakness is offered -- of the incomprehensible amount of suffering in the world and the complete insignificance of what you might be able to do about it. (And as someone said in a previous conversation, all the efforts of the greatest souls in history Jesus, the Buddha, Gandhi whoever, has not saved us from the current mess, so the probable impact of such remarkable mortals as you and me can be guessed). So I am forced to look at my less-than-perfect motivations and see if there's anything deep enough that will keep me going in the face of it. Its a double-bind -- even if I say okay I wont do social work any more, the option of going back to a mainstream life is even less inviting -- it feels verily like fiddling while Rome burns, which is why one tried to get out in the first place.

Enough of the train of thought. Having put it down on paper it sounds exaggerated, like a mental game rather than serious existential crisis. The light of morning shall dispel all such frightening glimpses and I can go back to my familiar patterns.

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PS: We had Prof. Jagdish Bhagwati, the eminent economist from Columbia come in at work today. I was looking forward to it, but unfortunately it turned out to be us telling him about our work rather than a general discussion about globalization (about which he's written a book) or other interesting stuff.

17 comments:

Anonymous said...

a while back there was a comment/post about a gray gray world.....

VK said...

black yesterday + white today = gray gray world :-)

Anonymous said...

do you guys work with lifestraw? maybe one can cover a few small villages? what do you think?

VK said...

?? What is lifestraw ?

Anonymous said...

http://www.lifestraw.com/en/high/faq.asp

Anonymous said...

Save Humanity? Why is that a worthy thing to pursue for any one. We are just the most evolved species for now, perhaps it is best for a complete re-start. Perhaps after we learn to annihilate each other and the environment and after the full effects of global warming, yet another species will rule the world in ways that we cannot imagine yet. Remember, out time started after dinosaurs left. So, why spend all your time saving humanity from a state that might not be so bad after all. On the geological scale of time, you and I are just dna carriers and nothing more. So just find the best way to be happy, and stop worrying about humanity.

Arvind

VK said...

Stupid fellow, still stuck at that nihilistic stage. Go read, UG Krishnamurthi or John Zerzan, you will feel happy.

Anonymous said...

Nihilism, hardly. I am merely open to the idea, that the end of humanity is not all bad. I am sure every dinoasur thought that the end if its species was the end of the world. Like wise, it is our folly to believe that dooms day scenarios like global warming are the end of the world. Dude, it is extremely stupid and arrogant to believe that humanity is the pinnacle of evolution and is worth preserving at all cost. I am much more reasonable, we owe it to ourselves to protect ourselves. If we dont, and mess around with the enviroment, and/or start killing ourselves, thats merely unfortunate. I believe in the ultimate power of life to re-affirm itself and new species will be born to take our place in the event of this dooms day. And who is to say, they wont have a new world order that is much more beautiful than ours. So far from being a nihilist, I subscribe to the view that life at its fundamental level is beautiful. I merely dont subscribe to the view that humanity is life and is worth saving at all cost.

Arvind

Anonymous said...

indifference to humankind because some day a kind of iron ore will rule the planet? and it will be so beautifully red that we will rue the fact that we did not hurry towards that red glory?
get serious pals.

VK said...

The point is very simple -- do you respond to someone else's suffering. Palls is always somehow sidestepping that, which is possible when you live in NYC and work for Goldman Sachs. My question to you Palls then is : can you go out and (for example) see a film that graphically depicts someone suffering somewhere (there's not a shortage of that!). If you can do that (and perhaps your line precludes you from doing that), then how do you respond to what you see ? A broad philosophy of the sort that you've outlined doesn't help. You can believe all that and still say that its important and worth it to do something about somebody's pain. Or you can be an asshole, which it seems you're being.

Anonymous said...

dude,
i don't think pals ruled out helping or doing something about somebody's pain. for example he has told nandita to go out and do such things if it makes her happy. i think his message is just realize that its an arbitrary choice one would make (as a carrier of dna) to make oneself happy.
there are several philosophical bases to do this. nihilism, aghori beliefs, advaita etc. but the arbitrariness is scary. and certainly in pals' hands this arbitrariness is dangerous. for example it was consistent with wiping out entire communities (which choice btw pals made based on his own aesthetic standards).

he does side-step issues of pain. very interesting. consciously and consistently avoid pain.

Anonymous said...

Patro has clarified some of my views. In any situation, pick the choice that makes you happiest.

In particular, how do you respond to some one elses suffering? If it makes you happy to help them help them. That gets high marks in my aesthetic scale and nothing else. If you want to help them because you think the world is better of this way, I would rather you not help them. You or I or Gandhi or Buddha are all incapable of knowing what the world is better of with. Worse would be if you want to help them because some stupid book wants you to help. If you dont want to help them at all, thats fine too. Hey, the world has a finite number of resources, if we all helped each other and prolonged each others life span, then it is inevitable that we start consuming the worlds resources rapidly, then that would lead to environmental collapse of civilization - which would be terribly bad according to you.

Arvind

VK said...

I feel how you react or don't react to suffering says something fundamental about you. Its not even a very interesting or debatable point -- psychologists talk about the lack of empathy as a diseased state. To say 'do what makes you happy' is to sidestep the question.

So Palls -- do that. Go and expose yourself to something seriously gut-wrenching and see what is it that makes you happy after that. I think should expose your philosophy to some difficult situations and see what you learn about yourself from that.

Anonymous said...

1) pals' philosophy is one of choice and avoidance. this guy is (trying to be) like yossarian. asking him to invite trouble?

2) all that pain/empathy and what's the main result? the longer the argument the more pals is proved right.

3) i wonder what the buddha's reaction would be to a movie like this. but i feel it will most likely piss you off.

4) if i may... you are beginning to sound pretty self-righteous. hope you noticed.

VK said...

Thanks :-)
You don't think its masterful confidence, that can't suffer fools ? Pity.

Anonymous said...

you see - my version of masterful confidence was to call pals (upon seeing his first post) and promise him a beating.

haha

Anonymous said...

Neither Buddha nor Gandhi could have afforded masterful confidence because they were completely wrong on many things. Now for the two of you to have masterful confidence about anything, unless any of you have secretly stashed away a hunge amount of intellect that is not apparent to the rest of us, Hmm...

Masterful confidence can come only from ignorance and arrogance. Congratulations to both of you. Well done!!!

Arvind